Oh damn I wish I could afford that Valentine perk, massive need for that pelt alsdkfnlaksndg

But paying $142 AU is way too much for me 8(

@ Michaël Samyn

Are the backer sets coming to the current game version as well, or to the remake only?

Yes, I had seen that - not quite what I meant! I'm going to Email them directly since I'm not sure how often they're checking here any more, anyhow. Thank you for replying!


That's already how the BAN pelt works. The gods cast it when they feel like it, and whatever deer get/s it can keep it until they log out or the server resets.

M&A: I've a question about designs, on IndieGoGo it says that the Forest Collectors will get the new design (Sun Deer), Forest Lovers the Valentine set (aka Mardi Gras) but about the Forest Believers? both?
As it is not written some people could think they will not get it and so it is less interesting to donate 300€ than 100€ or 50€

We will add the Sun Deer after we have remade the game. It's not really feasible in the current engine (otherwise we would have done it already). But we are a long way from our goal.

And there is something everyone gets when the goal is reached: The Endless Forest! Bigger, better, faster.

The idea is to remake the game and implement all additions in the new engine.

But if we wouldn't reach our goal, we'll see if there is another way. No guarantees, I'm afraid. It may not be possible in the current engine.

That line is on the 40,000 € goal on IndieGogo.

If we don't reach that goal, we will have to decide if we will try to add what we can to the old game (and risk breaking it) or if we go ahead and start remaking the game anyway without being certain if we can finish it (and risk basically wasting all the money).

The best thing would be to just reach our goal. Then all these questions dissolve.

@Flyleaf I think people only get the rewards if the full goal is reached

The question was probably lost among all the others, but a good few people were wondering about the fawn sets?

Especially with the unlikelihood that perks can be given out and such short time left to reach the goal, would sticking fawn sets be possible for at the very least a... 'we tried' sort of celebration?
It's something people have wanted from the game for years and years, and would 100% be appreciated ssso much even if we can't get a remake of the game itself.

Aivilo yes i know that is why i said what i said in my other post here it is again below. I guess i must be more clear on what i meant so when the deer gods do cast the ban pelt on you you can keep it. It will not go away once you log off or the sever resets. In other words both the pelts can be saved and worn for all time unless you decide to get anouther pelt. If you do get another pelt after having the albino or ban pelt then you would have to wait till the deer gods come again to get them back. The albino pelt just like i said bow to the twins.The ban you must have the deer gods cast it and hope you get it.

Example deer god gives you ban pelt you save then on anouther day could be a few days to years ,you dicide to get another pelt you save that one you lost the ban pelt. You can not get the ban pelt unless the deer gods come again. Albino you have to wait till the deer gods come you bow to the twins you get albino pelt save it. It is like on the ban pelt you decide to get anouther pelt and save then you will again have to wait for the deer gods to get it back again.

Hello i can not wait for this newer game wish i could donate but i can't sad to say.I have a suggestion how about having the Albino coat and the ban coat stay on our deer ? But to get these coats to stay lets say a deer god has to be on the game.You would still have to bow to the twin idols thought to get the albino coat to stay. I am not sure how you get the ban coat but once you get it your deer will keep it as well. I know these are rare coats the ban one being the rarest that is why i said that only when the deer gods are in forest can you keep the coats. So what do you all think?

Fukurou: ah my mistake indeed, I didn't notice the Lover in Believer and the Collector in Lover... only "perks" which was pretty vague :'D

Oh btw, I got the email about the campaign! Better late than never.

If I'm not mistaken, that setting allows magic to stick to ALL fawns. Not just the ones of over a month old.

Could you please clear the confusion on this one question: if we don't reach the goal, are you saying we will receive none of these perks?

To be truly specific, are you saying if we donate 100 euros, we won't receive the Valentine's Set if we do not reach the goal?

I know you said earlier perhaps not all rewards will be feasible, but with this specific question, would you think it would work? Just a bit confused on how the whole...rewards system will work c':

This question has probably been asked before, but is it possible to extend the period of time that this runs?

Thanks! ♥

The donators deserve some concrete information on what they will definitely receive as a reward for donating, whether the game gets remade or not. Otherwise they're more or less just being asked to throw their money blindly without knowing if it's even going to be worth it or not, and it's already been stated that refunds are not being offered.

So.. I guess a big question for me is, will people who donated enough money for the Valentines and/or Tin set still be receiving those things even if the Indiegogo doesn't reach its goal? And if no, will they still be eligable to receive them at a later date when/if the 40k goal is reached via private paypal extension on the community site (as was discussed)?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for supporting this game because I love it but having some reassurance that people will be getting the rewards based on their donation amount, for certain, sooner or later would be really nice ;o;

Sorry if this was answered already btw ;m; it's been a little bit confusing what with the talk going on lately

edit; JUST KIDDING I can sorta see what you said.. I guess I'm mostly wondering about those two sets in particular since they're already in the game (assuming Tin too?) as is, though I'm certainly no game developer so maybe the coding you'd require to have them on certain pictos only isn't possible with the current engine?

@M&A - since you asked for things on the community site that need fixing/to be added, the display name function has been broken for as long as I can remember, and it also has a pretty major loophole that will let you post as someone else if you know how to do it.

The Ghost Deer heard the summons...and she is a Forest Lover. It is the best she could do.

Forgive me for seeming, as the internet might put it, 'Salty' but.

Expecting to reach 40k in 25 days as such a small game during the holiday season when people are putting away for Christmas gifts and thanksgiving dinners (in America) is--sadly--unrealistic. Even now with 12 days left the 10k mark has not been breached. Meaning that there are, generously, 12 days left to make 30k for an indie game that, while I believe is fascinating and beautiful, is not everyone, daresay, is not even many people's cup of proverbial tea. I have spent many years on this site, and would love to see the game remade and updated in a better engine, in fact, I would even have been liable to dig up money to donate myself if not for a few not exactly small matters. The first of which is the fact that this is operating on flexible funding meaning that if it does not reach its goal, all the money poured into it will remain poured into it, rather than refunded.

This makes myself, and a few other members I know, exceedingly uncomfortable, is there a promise here that the money would be kept and stored away until such time as enough was made to fully put towards building the game up into the new version that was promised? Or if we fail will we simply be buying the moderators coffee for the next few years while we lament the fact that nothing ever came of pouring nearly ten thousand euros into this project based on promises of rewards that, as stated, will likely not be fulfilled unless it reaches a goal that was from the beginning and, even more clearly now, seemingly not fated or able to be met?

Furthermore, is it responsible to offer reward tiers on a flexible funding project when those reward tiers will only be given out if the full quota has been met? Forgive me for saying it, but it comes off as a touch scam-artist like to me. Not that I am implying this is a scam or that anyone here is a scam artist, it's simply a parallel that was uncomfortably easy to draw but which I felt should be drawn in an effort to bring attention to something that comes off as, dare I say, problematic, or at least, very unfair to those who are pouring their all into a project that simply never had the steam to travel up the monetary mountain set before it.

Now, this is only a personal opinion, but I myself worry that offering ingame set pieces as prizes if the quota is met may stir some disharmony among a community that is not well known for behaving generously if one member has something that another does not, from pieces of coding to neat little ingame tricks, the community has a habit of becoming...Restless, if it is not on an entirely level playing field. I put forward, for example, gen1 pictograms, which have caused no lack of fuss and drama on the community regarding who has one and who does not and how many they have and who can get one how and this person being better than the other for having one despite the fact that generation one pictograms are nothing more than a little aesthetic thing within the game, barely truly notable beyond how it hovers between antlers or floats at the edge of the screen. If the community cannot behave as adults in regards to something as small as a pictogram, I am slow to assume that people will not behave poorly over entire sets. But maybe I am not being fair, I would like to be wrong.

Beyond this, I have actually spoken to a jewelry making friend who has expressed some lamentations regarding the fact that the community was not reached out to in regards to prize tiers, as they state that they, and likely many others on the community, would have been glad to supply the arts they're so wonderful at as backer rewards that may have been more fitting for a game like TEF that has always claimed to be a place where everyone is even within the game and no one person stands up above the rest as well as to foster creativity. For instance, they explained that they would gladly have worked pro-bono making wonderful jewelry as a reward tier easily worth the price. Not only would this have likely fit in better with the feel of the forest and encouraged people who are interested in helping but don't really play the game to donate, but it may well have encouraged the community to more come together in assistance if they were treated more like the main suppliers of your funds and less like a piggy bank that can be shaken every time the game or company in general is pressed for cash. Again, this is merely a thought that I've had discussed with me that I thought should be brought to some light.

On another note, something that strikes me as very odd, you claim that the backer rewards involving sets cannot be given unless moved to a new engine, yet you added new sets to the game just a short time ago. Does this mean that part of the money raised goes towards rigging skins on the models because there is no one with you that can currently do it? Or is there another reason that this has been stated? I would love to receive an answer to this, as it has left me slightly baffled.

Continuing forward, is there any particular reason you have not outlined what the money would go towards if the goal was not met, I know I mentioned it once, but I would like to mention it again, if the goal is not met, does the money still go towards TEF, which has raised so much, or does it simply go into a sort of proverbial 'tale of tales' pot, as in the past 'TEF' and 'Tale of Tales' have been shown to be two very different things and I would hate to see the money that the community has so generously fundraised for the game and site they are part of go towards the creation of something they wanted their money to have nothing to do with. Money is a tricky thing you see--people need it to live. So when they put it towards something like this, there is a sort of trust that needs to be taken into account as to knowing that money is actually going to go where they put it. This is a TEF fundraiser, not a tale of tales fundraiser. Will it remain as such when the goal fails to be met?

Mahj, you're my favourite.


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@SoliloquyChryseis. Read these comments for the extension thing c': That's already been addressed.

As for the other comments on here, I love seeing the different opinions and outlooks on things. I love this discussion, as it has been lacking ever since the campaign started. I'm glad to see others are trying to discuss it more, I know I'm not the only one who feels more at ease when these things are addressed. ♥

Thank you Singa! I didn't see that at all! Appreciate the confirmation ^^

Me too Evern! I know for a fact we can do this. This community is so diverse, but we have overcome the fact the game was going to be shut down before. We can totally do this.

Oh yeah I still have a ton of ideas for sets lmao. I would love to make more ideas for them.

Sure they look gorgeous !!!
Sadly ...no 3D printer ...so no use for me .....
Perhaps M and A could print them and send them to those who can't ....