SHUT UP AND GET A FRICKEN LIFE BLACKFEATHR!

Shiori's picture
Seriously, stop whining. I can't say I have any real clue what this is about, but you know how many of us have gotten screwed over by all these people with 390434239 deer who can't make time for their friends/mates/family? A lot. I'm no exception. How bout maturing up a little bit?

Smile away, I don't care, you just look like more of an ass...
Blackfeathr's picture

HAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHA

I agree with you, Shi. :/ I

I agree with you, Shi. :/ I mean, I honestly understand if you're upset about something, but it isn't fair to act so immaturely toward every single player that visits the site. >_<
Sluggs's picture

This community site is

This community site is totally ruined. This used to be a nice place to visit, but these days, it's just full of crap!

Blackfeathr please stop. This is not your place to make a mess of!

If things don't change around here, I can see Michael just closing this place down. Sad

parrotsnpineapple's picture

The way things are going as

The way things are going as of late I honsestly wouldnt mind if it did >.>

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Her's picture

With all honesty, I say go

With all honesty, I say go for it. He closed the forums down once and he won't hesitate to do the same with the community site. We all need a lesson taught, apparently. I'm all for it. -waves a flag- :<
quadraptor's picture

I'll need a notice if that

I'll need a notice if that ever happens so I can save my stories. This is the only place I have them posted at the moment.


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IoRez's picture

FTW? BF posts 7 times in a

FTW? BF posts 7 times in a row and this is supposed to warrant a shutdown of the community site? O rly, Sluggs?
(rolls eyes) Let's get real, shall we?
What a bunch of Drama Queens.
Grow up or get lost - I 'm sure HSM3 is playing somewhere.


"Fragments fall and reflect the Light. Dust slowly covers my thoughts." - Yorres, Lightbringer
Blackfeathr's picture

LMFAO

LMFAO
Sluggs's picture

Surely you don't think I

Surely you don't think I said that just because of the recent spamming? There's so much more going on. Anyway, you lot do what you want with this site. If it gets closed down, you only have yourselves to blame.

IoRez's picture

Please, enlighten me. I have

Please, enlighten me. I have seen nothing that might warrant a shutdown. What're you talking about? Dragon eggs? Too many bios? Crummy pictures? What?!
Be specific.
If it's SO BAD that the site may close, I think a warning to cease and desist might be a little more fair than "you lot do what you want with this site. If it gets closed down, you only have yourselves to blame."
Nice attitude. Good to know you consider yourself Above and Outside of the community. If we need to change to avoid a shutdown, perhaps you'd like to tell us what should be changed - since you seem to have such an inside track on all of this.


"Fragments fall and reflect the Light. Dust slowly covers my thoughts." - Yorres, Lightbringer
Sluggs's picture

If you had been here as long

If you had been here as long as some of us, you'd notice how much this place has changed.

This used to be a place for diaries and art, but these days, it's more dragon eggs, music, and pointless posts, and half of those have nothing to do with TEF.

I'm not going to get into an argument about it, (I'm past things like that), I just miss the way this site once was.

I'm also really surprised at Blackfeathr. That sort of behavior is immature, and I have no idea why she's doing it.



IoRez's picture

Ah, I see. And agree. This

Ah, I see. And agree. This place has become quite the mess. We daily see A LOT of non-TEF material that clearly should not be cluttering the community site.
As for BF - whatever. People who create drama only want attention. By giving it to them you only encourage them further. Sometimes the best response is no response at all.
Surely we can do something to fix this, right? You made it sound dire, so I got a bit defensive. I spend a good deal of time here and in TEF. But how can we keep people from posting this crap? Outside of creating and enforcing strict guidelines for posting (unlikely), ignoring posts like this is our only option. If no one responds to non-TEF related posts, we should see them dry up. But that only works if everyone does it, which not everyone does, because (apparently) people love teeny tiny pixel drawings of dragons, lame emo poetry and reprinted pop lyrics.
What to do?

edit: maybe you should post about this matter. This actually IS a community issue, and I think you shoud lead the discussion.



"Fragments fall and reflect the Light. Dust slowly covers my thoughts." - Yorres, Lightbringer
Laruna's picture

My sentence structure is

My sentence structure is horrid. I meant to say: it would help if people would stop bumping deer updates with reactions to this. It's simply perpetuating the situation.

I'll add that I agree with Io Rez. I don't think it's necessary to delete the forums, but something needs to happen to stop unrelated spam posts. I'd like to think open discouragement by the community is a possible solution. Moderators might be a solution too. Pictures can be placed in correct categories and spam posts can simply be deleted.
IoRez's picture

I've mentioned something

I've mentioned something along those lines before. Yes, we need a moderator to cut the fat out.
Also: Deer updates - really? I understood the bio thing, for reference, but daily (sometimes hourly) bumps to let us know what all 12 of your deer are contemplating? Seems excessive to me.


"Fragments fall and reflect the Light. Dust slowly covers my thoughts." - Yorres, Lightbringer
Shiori's picture

-sigh- Oh dear… It makes

-sigh- Oh dear…

It makes me wince to see so many people against the community site now. I can’t say I don’t understand why some of the older players feel this way. I can’t begin to know what the community site was like before the bios and updates because that’s what I first happened upon, but I’m sure it was a lot more peaceful. However, I don’t think everyone should be blamed. I wish people would enjoy their deer more in forest then they seem to enjoy them out of it. I for one don’t plot elaborately off site and most of what I come up with is based on interactions in the forest. Mostly XD

But you know I see the statement all the time that there wouldn’t be so much drama and violence and deetr characters if there wasn’t a community site…and I just don’t think it’s true. Whether I had this site or not, my deer would still be ;characters’, simply because I’m an Rper and that’s what I do. I don’t want to be my horrid nasty self on the internet, and I know several others who feel the same way. Saying that, there will be deer with ornery personalities, deer who start fights just to start fights. There will be deer who are lovers and flirt with everyone and have deer they hang around with more than others.

Maaaaybe in the past all the deer in the game were all loveable peaceful friendly deer who hung out with everyone. Seems a bit strange to me but back then the community was small and I can see it being possible. But now? There’s so many people here! Change is gonna happen…and no I don’t think the solution is closing down the site. Moderators? Always a great idea with this many people in a room XD BUT, what will they be moderating? Behavior, or actual content? Because I think if you start cutting back on content there really isn’t going to be much left of this site anyways >< I see deer bios AS diaries, and even deer updates when done tastefully. When kept actually updated consistently (and not just bumped every time a new deer enters the forest), they are creative writings, whether some people see them as annoying or not.

That leads me to my last question guys…what sort of diaries are you guys wanting to see? Just stories based on deer? Poetry based on deer? What about role play? What about stories that create as much drama as anything else? I for one would love to write more stories, but like I said Im more of an RPer than a story teller, and would feel quite left out of the community if I were judged upon that.But writing any story is hard to do when you know nothing about the other deer you’re writing about other than what they portray themselves in the forest. isn’t that whether bios and updates come in handy?


Darcy, Shyla, and Kailani's Updates/Bios
IoRez's picture

Honestly, Shi, my favorite

Honestly, Shi, my favorite diary entries are exactly that: entries in a journal about the daily habits of the deer. Pega's is a good example, with photos and descriptions of interesting happenings. (i.e. "I took my deer to location X and met deer Y and we both Zd until it was time to log out.")

I don't even think anyone here is knocking RP, which is what it is. I say Fine, so long as its TEF related. Some of the others... I don't know. I never read them so I'm in no position to judge. But that is what a moderator would do - monitor behavior and content. I don't really think behavior is an issue, imho, as we don't really have a problem with inter-player conflict so much as just abuse of the forum itself. Again, a tasteful bio that's only updated when you actually have an update (as opposed to just a new song or photo you like) is plenty. But the endless stream of "oh hai - I like deers!" entries and "school makes me sad" entries and the "i <3 (insert movie of the week)! let's make a (movie of the week) RP!!!" entries and, of course, the "CLICK MY DRAGONS!!! RARARGH!!" entries - I don't feel like this is the correct venue for those. And we are currently awash in a sea of this mess.


"Fragments fall and reflect the Light. Dust slowly covers my thoughts." - Yorres, Lightbringer
Laruna's picture

If moderators are deemed

If moderators are deemed necessary, there would definitely have to be player-moderator feedback. I honestly think most of the content that needs monitoring is in the Pictures. Things are put into wrong categories. Art and even photos that don't belong to the player are posted. Non-TEF art is posted. I have nothing against posting a diary entry for that (Ghost's art blog is an example of how that could work).

But diaries - I'm thinking of the ones that were posted a couple of days ago, when two or three of those... flash music things were playing over each other. That just isn't necessary. They stop the players on YouTube and lastfm from loading; not to mention they disrupt any music already playing on the computer.

I agree with Io Rez about the updates. And I agree with you. They can be artistic. But I think everyone, at least at some point or another, agrees they are bumped too much. I guess I can't relate to this desire of knowing who's character's on and how they are feeling and where they are. I want to find that out for myself. Everything can be interpreted - even if someone's having computer problems. I definitely think there's this tendency to rely too much on text and less on the non-verbal language of the Forest. But as this relates to moderation, I don't see these as being deleted. The community has to decide what's tolerable. And in the end, it really wouldn't be about what's allowed and what's not. The community has already decided that, for better or worse.
Her's picture

We (some of the TEF

We (some of the TEF community) were talking to Michael about having Diary categories just like on the Pictures page in the forums, so I'm sure he's toying with that behind the scenes, especially now that he has time thanks to The Path being out of his way. So there's that. That's all I'm commenting to say other than I, too, hate the flash music players. xD <3
toboe's picture

What the HELL. :: D e e r .

1273's picture

..kinda agrees with Rai..

..kinda agrees with Rai..

you can get your own at Oshilene!!!
MickKreiger's picture

what are we doing...we are

what are we doing...we are getting really p**sed off about a site...you shouldn't take that personally..i know that people do drama for a living myself included and we probably shouldn't but there is them out there and people need to understand that they are going to be there...i can see points here i mean the massive updates in like the deer updates i mean come on...if someone likes to post that then you shouldn't get mad at them on the other hand i can see that over the time that i've been here, people on the site are changing and leaning away from the game i know that i sound like a hypocrite because i rarely go in forest mainly cuz my computer dies but i mean...we all have intelligence and i think that because of the fact that i think people came here for a rest and then ended up fighting all the time, its saddening but i think that you can take the high road and post things to make this place better and maybe over time others will also bring it up to a higher standard but a thing like this is pointless because all your doing is giving yourself reason to leave a place that some people want to wreck and if all the good people go then they've won

Everything is Effed up straight from the heart
--Mick--
Emiva's picture

Oh goodness.... how come I

Oh goodness.... how come I was unaware of this.......

I think this is... without any other words to describe my feeling... insane?? :/

Wow.

Just... wow.





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Hugs and kisses,
Emiva <3