[To be moved] Pictogram Building Guide {Gen4 PSD Builder Added!}

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Intro
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The Basics
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What's the Difference? - MOVED
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PSD Tutorial
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GIF Tutorial
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3.13 Converting



The Pictogram Builders

If you are curious, original post also goes through the discovery process (and is a MESS).


This page will be moved and divided between two pages:
About Pictograms and Pictogram Building
Please feel free to re-track there.

Pieces will go missing from here as they are moved, to help me keep my place.


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There are a few basic facts you need to know about pictograms before you begin using the Builders:


--Each pictogram is composed of exactly FOUR "glyphs"

--No two players have the same four glyphs (Yes, I know there are a few instances of "clones," but it is a rare hiccup. All other "duplicate" pictograms are created by different glyphs which have a very similar overall appearance when combined - they are not IDENTICAL in their "true names")

--A correctly written "true name" code is NOT case sensitive, but will have upper- and lower-case letters in it.

--The Builders display ALL lower-case letters for simplicity, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF L so that there is no confusion between L, I, and 1. Although these "true names" are not "correct", they are functional.

--A player using v3.31 will only see THREE glyphs for any other player using a pictogram generation higher than 1st.

--A player using v3.41 will see all current Generation pictograms correctly, UNLESS the other player is using a client which is not v3.41.

--A pictogram with FEWER than FOUR glyphs cannot be rebuilt entirely.

--You can still narrow a glitched pictogram's player down to (at most) 15 players.

--The game occasionally shifts certain glyphs left, right, up, or down. Your screenshot may be very slightly different from your final result in the Builder.

--There are lots of differences between the three generations, and with practice it is quite simple to tell the difference between them. For more details on how to do this, check out the "What's the Difference?" tab to the left!

With all of these things in mind... Have fun and start building!






What's the Difference?
(Between Generations)


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PSD Building Guide


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REQUIRED TOOLS FOR THIS TUTORIAL
-A program capable of utilizing .psd file types and layer visibility (Photoshop, Photoshop Elements, GIMP*, SAI*, etc).
*Free! Google them!

STEPS
1. Obtain a screenshot of the pictogram you wish to rebuild. This screenshot must be as clear as you can possibly make it. If you can, use the "listen" action while the pictogram is on the side bar; this makes the glyphs as large as possible.
For my example, I will be using a screenshot graciously sent by Eyestrain!

It's a little bit blurry, so I've gone over where the glyphs are so they're easier to see. Not perfect, but it'll do!


2. Open the appropriate Builder. If you cannot tell the difference between a 1st Generation pictogram and a 2nd Generation pictogram, you may need to open both Builders.
In this case, it is a 2nd Generation pictogram.

3. The first thing you will see when the Builder is opened is one of my deer's pictograms (Rire's for 1st Gen, Candle's for 2nd Gen). This is so that you can see how a completed pictogram should appear. You may hide the four glyph layers which are visible.
I also copy/paste in the screenshot of the pictogram I will be identifying, to make it easier for me.

4. Look for matching glyphs in the thumbnails of each layer. When you find one that you think belongs, turn on the layer's visibility.


5. Once you think you have a matching pictogram, make sure that only ONE glyph of each color (green, brown, yellow, blue) is showing. You should be able to read the four letter/number code in the upper left corner.


6. The four character code at the top is the pictogram's "true name." You can use this code in several ways. There is a text layer at the very top of the layer list which contains URLs you may find useful. With these you can:
--Link to the pictogram (1stGen: http://tale-of-tales.com/TheEndlessForest/register/symbol.swf?word= ) -- (2ndGen: http://tale-of-tales.com/TheEndlessForest/register/symbol2.swf?word= )
--Identify the player (http://endlessforest.org/machine/playerpage.php?symbol= )
This one's is 1Lcix

7. Place the "true name" code after the = in the URL, copy/paste into your browser, and click "go" or press enter so that your browser navigates to the page. DON'T FORGET to add the 1 in front of all 2nd Generation pictogram codes!
So we get this URL to identify the player: http://endlessforest.org/machine/playerpage.php?symbol=1Lcix
This link takes us to the page of "owlright" - ta-da!
If you want to be sure, you can take the name "owlright" and put it at the end of the "players list" URL so that you can see the pictogram there. This URL is CASE SENSITIVE, so be sure you write the name exactly as you see it in your search bar. The name "owlright" does not have any upper case letters. If you put "Owlright," the pictogram will spin.
http://tale-of-tales.com/TheEndlessForest/register/pictogram.php?username=owlright


A NOTE ON THE PLAYER-IDENTIFYING URL:
It will not always take you to the user's page. Sometimes, another user has created a blog with the same name, and you will be taken to that blog instead of the player's page. This CAN be corrected if the original poster is willing to cooperate with the user! But for those who can't, all you have to do to find the player's page is add a hyphen (-) and a zero (0) to the end of the URL in your browsing bar.
In example, we'll take a look at my deer Candlelight. His pictogram code is 1Ldq6 - http://endlessforest.org/machine/playerpage.php?symbol=1Ldq6
This URL takes us to a post by LighttheSky. By adding the characters "-0" to the end of this new URL, we get this URL:
http://www.endlessforest.org/community/Candlelight-0
And we find ourselves at Candlelight's user page.


If this does not take you to the page, change the zero to a one (1). If you still aren't there, increase the number by 1 until you find the correct page.
You can also put the username at the end of this URL if you want to link to the pictogram: (http://tale-of-tales.com/TheEndlessForest/register/pictogram.php?username= )
THIS URL IS CASE SENSITIVE.







GIF Building Guide


REQUIRED TOOLS FOR THIS TUTORIAL
-MS Paint (or equivalent)
-QuickTime Player (or equivalent)

STEPS
1. Obtain a screenshot of the pictogram you wish to rebuild. This screenshot should be as clear as you can possibly make it. If you can, use the "listen" action while the pictogram is on the side bar; this makes the glyphs as large as possible.
Starling has volunteered this screenshot :3 Thanks, Starling!

2. Save the GIF version of the builder to your computer.

3. Open the Builder using QuickTime Player. If you are building a 2nd Generation pictogram, take the green background with the black 1 on it, and put it in your art program. If you are using MS Paint, this can be accomplished by either taking a screenshot of the green screen and pasting it into Paint, or by opening the GIF file with Paint directly.
We are building a 1st generation pictogram, so we'll open the 1st gen builder. ...Yes, I know that's not what the screenshot says.


4. When you are ready to begin, click the "Play" button in QuickTime Player ("QT" from here on out). Watch the green glyphs until you find one that matches the pictogram you are looking for, and press the "Pause" button.

5. Take a screenshot of the QT screen with the glyph you want (the "Prnt Scrn" button is usually located near the function keys - F1, F2, etc). Go into Paint and paste the screenshot into the window. Make sure that your secondary/"right click" color is WHITE and that the background transparency function is turned ON (screenshots for this coming soon). Move the screenshot until the clear box lines up with the green screen behind it. If you don't move the player around and click directly into MS Paint, you won't have to move your screenshot to line up; it will already fit correctly.



6. Repeat this process for the other glyphs. Each section is labeled in QT by a white screen with black letters for "SECOND GLYPH," etc. If you get stuck, move on to the next glyph and go back later.


7. Once you think you have a matching pictogram, make sure that only ONE glyph of each color (green, brown, yellow, blue) is showing. You should be able to read the four (five for second gen) letter/number code in the upper left corner.


8. The four character code at the top is the pictogram's "true name." You can use this code in several ways. There is a text layer at the very top of the layer list which contains URLs you may find useful. With these you can:
--Link to the pictogram (1stGen: http://tale-of-tales.com/TheEndlessForest/register/symbol.swf?word= ) -- (2ndGen: http://tale-of-tales.com/TheEndlessForest/register/symbol2.swf?word= )
--Identify the player (http://endlessforest.org/machine/playerpage.php?symbol= )
The pictogram we have here is "JSO6"!

9. Place the "true name" code after the = in the URL, copy/paste into your browser, and click "go" or press enter so that your browser navigates to the page. DON'T FORGET to add the 1 in front of all 2nd Generation pictogram codes!
So we get this URL to identify the player: http://endlessforest.org/machine/playerpage.php?symbol=jso6

If we click this, it takes us to the user page for the login "Jarnik".



A NOTE ON THE PLAYER-IDENTIFYING URL:
It will not always take you to the user's page. Sometimes, another user has created a blog with the same name, and you will be taken to that blog instead of the player's page. This CAN be corrected if the original poster is willing to cooperate with the user! But for those who can't, all you have to do to find the player's page is add a hyphen (-) and a zero (0) to the end of the URL in your browsing bar.
In example, we'll take a look at my deer Candlelight. His pictogram code is 1Ldq6 - http://endlessforest.org/machine/playerpage.php?symbol=1Ldq6
This URL takes us to a post by LighttheSky. By adding the characters "-0" to the end of this new URL, we get this URL:
http://www.endlessforest.org/community/Candlelight-0
And we find ourselves at Candlelight's user page.


If this does not take you to the page, change the zero to a one (1). If you still aren't there, increase the number by 1 until you find the correct page.
You can also put the username at the end of this URL if you want to link to the pictogram: (http://tale-of-tales.com/TheEndlessForest/register/pictogram.php?username= )
THIS URL IS CASE SENSITIVE.







Converting 2nd and 3rd Generation to 1st Generation for client versions below 3.31

1. Go to the URL of the pictogram for the player you are trying to help.
2nd Gen example:
http://tale-of-tales.com/TheEndlessForest/register/pictogram.php?username=Candlelight

3rd Gen example:
http://taleoftales.com/TheEndlessForest/register/pictogram.php?username=DangerousPirate

(Picto belongs to Orinoco Flow Laughing out loud)


2. Edit > View Source

3. Search for "register"

4. Copy the URL from after "/register..." -- take note of the areas in yellow, green, and red
2nd Gen: register/symbol2.swf?word=1Ldq6
3rd Gen: register/symbol3.swf?word=2GRe3

5. Replace the URL in your browser's search bar from "/register" onwards. Press Enter.

6. Remove the yellow number after "symbol" in the URL
2nd Gen: http://tale-of-tales.com/TheEndlessForest/register/symbol.swf?word=1Ldq6
3rd Gen: http://tale-of-tales.com/TheEndlessForest/register/symbol.swf?word=2GRe3

7. Remove the green number from the "true name" code at the end (last 5 characters).
2nd Gen: http://tale-of-tales.com/TheEndlessForest/register/symbol.swf?word=Ldq6
3rd Gen: http://tale-of-tales.com/TheEndlessForest/register/symbol.swf?word=GRe3

8. Remove the red character in the URL and replace it with what the green character was.
2nd Gen: http://tale-of-tales.com/TheEndlessForest/register/symbol.swf?word=Ldq1
3rd Gen: http://tale-of-tales.com/TheEndlessForest/register/symbol.swf?word=GRe2

9. Press enter. You are now looking at the glitched pictogram. Look for it on your TEF client, and that should be the player you want.



PLEASE NOTE that due to the fourth glyph being glitched, there MAY be more than one player with that pictogram on your screen. It is still very helpful to assign a meeting place. This is just to help you make sure you have the right person if there are several deer in the area and you cannot see them because the other player/s are wearing newer masks, pelts, and/or antlers.







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EternalWanderer's picture

YAAG. You. Are. A. Geniu

YAAG.


You.

Are.

A.

Genius.
Pegasicorn's picture

I have this page bookmarked.

I have this page bookmarked. =B
Aivilo's picture

Y'all are too kind

Y'all are too kind <3
Let me know if anything is confusing!
Solaya's picture

Very interesting ! Track ! (:

Very interesting ! Track ! (:

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Question about logging in i

Question about logging in i know u have to click a circle thingy on the bottom left but i cant see or find it Sad please help
Aivilo's picture

Sorry, Oliviapanda - I

Sorry, Oliviapanda - I haven't been on in the last couple of weeks!
Look on your action bar. The circle is there. If you have the action bar minimized, you won't be able to see it.
You can also press the "Escape" key to pull up the menu.
woodswolf's picture

Tracking!

Tracking!
See you in the Forest!
Laiia's picture

Track

Track Smiling

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Tracking

Tracking Smiling

My head's spinning looking at

My head's spinning looking at this...

I...don't really understand what this is for. Is this to find certain pictographs, or...?
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*tracktrack* :]

*tracktrack* :]
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Unplugged's picture

Lung, basically, the files

Lung, basically, the files have for each pictogram-part one layer and you can hide and show these layers and 'build' the pictogram like that. If you want to find out someone's account you can rebuild the pictogram with Avilo's files to get the True Name. Smiling With the True Name you can find them on the community through the link they provided: http://endlessforest.org/machine/playerpage.php?symbol=1XXXX

Okay, so it is just a way of

Okay, so it is just a way of finding a pictogram quickly without guessing usernames? Gotcha.
Starling's picture

The link used to work for me,

The link used to work for me, but now when I click it, nothing pops up or anything...
Does it work for everyone else? :S
Laiia's picture

What link exactly ? There's

What link exactly ? There's many here~

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Starling's picture

The download link for the Gen

The download link for the Gen 1 PSD.
X3
Aivilo's picture

Starling - it appears the

Starling - it appears the site I'm hosting the files on is down for the moment. I'll see if I can get some alternate links up.
Starling's picture

Ahh thankyou

Ahh thankyou<3
I'm not in a rush though. It may have fixed itself when I check back in the morning. ^^
Aivilo's picture

Alright, I've got alternate

Alright, I've got alternate download sites for the PSD format of 1st and 2nd generation pictograms. Let me know if there are any other problems :3 I'm not familiar with the new host I used, but Photobucket wouldn't allow .psd files and this one does, so.

Also added some tabs so it's a little more organized, but I'm about to scuttle out the door so they aren't quite perfect. I'll try to remember to work on them some more when I get back in a few days.
Starling's picture

This is looking much more

This is looking much more tidy!

Also thanks for the alternate link<3
Aivilo's picture

Thanks for the tip and track

Thanks for the tip and track :3 They've been added, along with GIF instructions (FINALLY) and some other minor changes~

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Unplugged's picture

Hey Aivilo, I spent my

Hey Aivilo, I spent my evening creating a psd with all the parts of Gen3 Picos. Smiling I have originally planned to experiment a bit and see if I can create an online pictogram builder. If you want though, I can send you that file.
Aivilo's picture

lmao, I just finished glyphs

lmao, I just finished glyphs 1 through 3 and was taking a break before I started on the last set. That's what I get for not looking up more often Sticking out tongue
I'll probably finish it just 'cause I'm enjoying playing with the shapes and I already have most of the color code in place, and it's helping me learn SAI, which I may be stuck with for a while.
They're very elegant, this generation~
Starling's picture

I don't know if it's just me,

I don't know if it's just me, but I always get an error when trying to open the 2nd Gen download. 1st Gen download opens fine though.. D:
Aivilo's picture

Are you using the alternate

Are you using the alternate links?
I had left the original links up because I was hoping Ripway would come back, but it's looking like it may not x.x I may just remove them.

Edit: About to lose hosting ability on that new site anyway, so I've just moved everything over to deviantART. Hopefully that will solve the problem once and for all.
Starling's picture

Yeah, I was using the

Yeah, I was using the alternate one..

Doesn't matter anyway, the ones on DA work just fine. Thankyou very much :3

Track~

Track~
WonderfullySarcastic's picture

Kinda happy that the links

Kinda happy that the links now take us to your dA account, since I figured out what a pictogram I once saw was named and now I can try to find out if it's taken or not Smiling

Guess I'll ask here, too..
Does anyone know if this pictogram is taken?
http://tale-of-tales.com/TheEndlessForest/register/symbol3.swf?word=1iqfx
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Aivilo's picture

Haha, yeah, I got tired of

Haha, yeah, I got tired of having to switch hosts because the free ones that would let me put up the correct file type kept going down. I figured dA had never given me much trouble, so I tried there. So far so good!

You can see if it has a name by plugging it into the link the map uses. It should be on the topmost layer on the PSD picto builders and the last slide on the GIF version.

http://endlessforest.org/machine/playerpage.php?symbol=


When you add the 'true name' to the end of that URL and put it in your browser, it takes you to a player page named Gewerh. The name has been registered, but not logged into on TEFc.
WonderfullySarcastic's picture

Well, I didn't actually use

Well, I didn't actually use either file, lol. I'm not allowed to download anything onto this computer (it's my step-dad's), so I just looked at the changing image on dA :B

But thank you for finding all that out for me, Aiv. Sucks that it's taken, but still good to know it is. Thank you <33
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Mis's picture

Well, thought I'd just

Well, thought I'd just mention them, as the map is seemingly confusing them now. Nice going map.

The pictograms Pomegranates and RikkaxAkule22 are identical. Not sure if you're still interested in adding those. I find it a weird.. Happening, haha. I didn't know the map would confuse them too. My character (the pomegranates) picto is in-forest now, but if you click it it goes to the other one. Very evil.
Aivilo's picture

Thanks for the tip, Mis :3 I

Thanks for the tip, Mis :3
I think the map links to whichever was created first. We had tried to figure it out at one point and I can't remember what we decided, exactly, but it's something like that.
Still not sure how they happen, either.
Arwym's picture

Tracking.

Tracking.
Arwym

alivo can you help me get

alivo can you help me get crying idol mask.
Sylvestrix's picture

This is genius! Worked like a

This is genius! Worked like a charm for me. I do have one question though, sorry! I found the picto and the identifying url no problem, but when I load it, it says 'page not found'. I have what I think is the username I was looking for, I'm just wondering what the 'page not found' error means! Thanks for all the time and effort you must have put into this, it's a brilliant resource!
Aivilo's picture

Glad you found it

Glad you found it useful!
When it says "page not found" it usually means that the player has not logged into the community. You can still get the username from the URL of the page.
HOWEVER, if the login name you get has any punctuation in it, the player may have logged in and you may just be getting that page in error because the site doesn't understand punctuation in URLs. If there is any punctuation (-.,;_ etc) just remove it from the URL and see if that brings up a page. If it still says it's not found, the user just hasn't been on the community yet.
Hope that makes sense! Let me know if it doesn't or you have any other questions :3
Sylvestrix's picture

Thanks for getting back to

Thanks for getting back to me! n.n There is a '-' in the name, I took it out like you suggested but still getting 'page not found'. Ah well! At least I know now. Thanks so much for the help!
Aivilo's picture

Sure thing!

Sure thing!
Emorrenna's picture

I have a problem with the GIF


I have a problem with the GIF tutorial: after that I created a new simbol with "true name", I don't understand how connect it with my deer account. I try it, but the page is not found and in the URL there is a name of another account that is not mine. How do this? Thanks.
LighttheSky's picture

Win!

Win! <3 Tracking! Thank you! <3
| Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you. ~Maori Proverb |
Aivilo's picture

Emorrenna - I would have to

Emorrenna - I would have to see the pictogram you are trying to build, the result you got, and the URL you are using. It could be that you just switched a couple of glyphs that look similar.
If you just want a link to your pictogram, though, or to your account, it's easier to use one of these URLs instead of going through the trouble of building a picto you own and know the login name of by hand:

http://www.endlessforest.org/community/Emorrenna - the link to your account profile page
http://tale-of-tales.com/TheEndlessForest/register/pictogram.php?username=Emorrenna - the link to your pictogram (case sensitive)

You can use the second link to get the 'true name' of your picto by following the instructions here. (Just view the source of the big picture of your pictogram and find the 'true name' in the URL there)

LTS - <3
Emorrenna's picture

Ah ok, i have undestand!

Ah ok, i have undestand! Problem solved. Thanks you Smiling
Unplugged's picture

Hah! I only just now saw the

Hah! I only just now saw the "Nameless" pictogram section. "Awkward" is one of my accounts. I sent the registration request before the script was able to assign a pictogram. I was wondering at that time whether doing that would give me a random picto or a non-functioning account.
Aivilo's picture

^lol, you had told me about

^lol, you had told me about it at some point, which is how I found it in the first place. I don't remember where we'd discussed it, probably some other thread about pictos, but I'd brought up "Curiosity," which is mine and has a similar story : P
MageOfMind's picture

interesting and useful thank

interesting and useful
thank you
Aivilo's picture

I'll get the new generation

I'll get the new generation up in the next few days~ I'm going to be out of town today, but I'll start tomorrow for sure.
Just a reminder that the Builders can be used to find the account linked to a pictogram if it's not showing on the map (which gen4 currently does not)! Keep an eye out for the new builder soon.
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Aaaaand track.

Aaaaand track.
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