Alright, I'm Agitated. [Short Rant]

OokamiAzura's picture
What's wrong with us having an opinion? Opinions make us human, do they not?

And yet, every time someone raises a fuss, it seems only traditional to beat the snot out of them, and force them to withdraw everything they say.

That is complete and utter BULLSHIT.

Long story short:

Opinions.

We're entitled to them.

You don't like them?

Then argue properly, and don't get all uppity about it.

You can't argue in a nice way?

Kindly shove it up your ass.

Thanks.

Opinions are a great thing,

Opinions are a great thing, and can be empowering but there's a quote that I quite like that sums up my feelings on them most of the time;
"A gifted small girl has explained that pins are a great means of saving life, by not swallowing them." -Charles Edward Montague

Just because you (world at large you, not you specifically Ookami Smiling) have an opinion does not mean that you are in the right time or place to voice that opinion. I've heard "It's my opinion!" be used too many times in the world to justify rude downright cruel actions or speeches, and it's something I wish people would put greater thought into.
OokamiAzura's picture

Yes, but if they are giving

Yes, but if they are giving their opinion in a polite manner, and are beat down over that, that is completely unfair in my opinion. Perhaps I'm simply being too caught up in the moment and overreacting, but I'm quite aggravated over all of this.

If someone isn't being rude about their opinion, they should not be forced to edit/delete their blog.
Bylah's picture

Tera: While you are indeed

Tera: While you are indeed right that we as individuals need to know when and where to voice our opinions, I think what Ookami is saying is that there seems to be a running theme that some people within the community seem to be incapable of taking an opinion for what it is: it's just how someone sees something.

I have noticed that some people here seem to take everything very personally. They cannot see things as just opinion: everything seems to be a personal vendetta. Speaking one's opinion just HAS to be an attack on someone. That's how many people here seem to take things, and it's o mature. I have, on numerous occasions, voiced a well-thought-out opinion, without naming names and without pointing fingers, and people have taken it as a personal attack.


That's a good point, I guess

That's a good point, I guess I should expand my point to include that people should take more care in how they respond to criticism or a disagreement. You're totally right, and it's always been the case...I find things on TEF follow a certain pattern that goes something like this;

Player A posts a blog stating an opinion.
Player B posts and states what they don't agree with about Player A's opinion.
Player A does one of two things; takes Player B's point and responds reasonably, or they put up walls and respond defensively.
Player A removes their blog, venting displeasure.
Player B then makes their own blog and vents displeasure.

It happens almost every time, give or take a step. I've watch the wheel spin around and around. It's gotten to the point where I can almost smell the shite before it hits the fan lol comes in handy!
Bylah's picture

Tera: And see, usually, I get

Tera: And see, usually, I get to step 3, respond reasonably, and it just ends badly because people can't seem to handle it when I debate like a rational adult. They always seem to think that I'm trying to attack them or call them out, and I'm not. I just want to talk like an adult. I just want to state my opinion, be polite. and maybe come to an agreeable resolution or at least make my grievances understood without having to resort to namecalling.


Zura

Zura (RandomnameIgiveyouisrandom 8D)
I agree to an extent. Unless someone is giving their opinion that is not their opinion just to hurt someone.
You don't go to a story and say, "I reckon this is crap" and not give any reasons for it, or give critque where it is not asked for.
But, yes.
I had a situation the other day where a girl in real life said "I think you should keep your opinion to yourself" and stormed off. I dun even know her x3!
Correct me if i'm wrong, but she might as well be saying, "My opinion is that people should keep their opinion to themselves"
Cannot elaborate as I'm at school and the teacher is yelling. <3

Man Ammy, I know how you

Man Ammy, I know how you feel...but at the same time, sometimes I get people where I hear the things that come out of their mouth, and I can't help but think "Why did you feel you needed to inform us of that?" happens allll the time at school. Comes with the territory I suspect, some artists must divulge their every quibble with the world around them because tis ~expression~!

*cough*
Pardon my bitter lol.
OokamiAzura's picture

I will admit that there are

I will admit that there are times where opinions and information simply aren't needed, but again, not to beat a dead horse, but generally most of the opinions blogged here aren't that irrelevant or aggressive. And yet, no matter how polite the manner is, they get jumped on in an instant.

It's just...*Sigh*

I really just wish people would stop getting so uptight about opinions...
Verycrazygirl's picture

This is why a majority of my

This is why a majority of my opinions are kept somewhere elusive.
Like on MSN or sometimes in my updates.
You don't get as much fuss this way. Laughing out loud

Maybe others could try being this way if they don't want to risk being beaten down?

OokamiAzura's picture

If we keep opinions private,

If we keep opinions private, the world will get nowhere. Opinions, thoughts...it all makes the world go round. Without it, we'd be...well, pretty damn brainless.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if we don't get opinions out there now, it'll simply build up, and lead to something more explosive in the future. Sure, I came off as pretty aggressive, but consider how I could have reacted if I left that frustration sitting; It would have been much worse, I guarantee you that.

Have to agree with you.

Have to agree with you.

Really... if someone has an opinion that is not agreed with, they should not be bashed. ><
Complicated matter. Then, look at me. This is an opinion and I'm glad you took the time to bother reading it.

Agreed with entirely- and

Agreed with entirely- and also agreed with on Tera's post after it.

-nod-
Iaurdagnire's picture

Opinions are fine, but the

Opinions are fine, but the word opinion is thrown about so much on here as a defensive excuse to beat someone down even if names are not mentioned.

And when ones opinion is backed up by roundabout "facts" that turn it into something which it is not, that is what I have a problem with because it stops being an opinion, and turns into bullshit.

Thirdly, I've noticed how a mass of people can have a very strong and agressive opinion about something and suddenly it's okay to offend because "everyone" seems to agree. But when one person disagrees and reacts just as explosively as a result, it's: OSHIT, YOU'RE RUDE TO US, HOW DARE YOU.

Bottom line: if you intend to voice yourself, do so if you're willing to get some throwback. If someone disagreeing with you is going to make you even more angry about it and cause more grief, don't post in the first place and take it up with someone else.

Ranting at a friend is fantastic.
quadraptor's picture

It would be nice if we could

It would be nice if we could handle things on here with open minds. Like Terabetha mentioned, "Player A does one of two things; takes Player B's point and responds reasonably..."

Someone voicing an opinion does not mean you have to agree with them. But at the same time, there's no need to be defensive to them if you do not agree. I think things can be settled in a reasonable manner, it just takes a little self control to do so.

I remember someone telling me about how the Japanese have serious etiquette when they have business meetings. This site talks about that, and I think they know how to communicate with open minds.

Person A gives their opinion.
Person B is polite when they disagree, and shows their opinion.

And so on. That way, there's a degree of respect when we speak to one another, instead of us putting up walls and sometimes losing friendships.