Honore Libertatique - Biography of Federweber

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Recently I noticed many people writing that they don't approach unknown deer because of unpleasant experiences. This makes me sad, and so I must clear up: You can interact with Federweber whenever you want. If she is lying, dancing, playing with friends: She'll never ignore any unknown deer, nameless, fawn. If she does, I didn't watch ': -D
Feder absolutely wants to be polite. The only difficult thing might be that she doesn't like impolite deer for her part. I hope this note will help anyone x-)





APPEARANCE

Federweber does not really have a set since she is a changeable soul.







PERSONALITY

As a volucrian wind spirit Federweber contains qualities of the volucrians' two main gods: air and fate.

Rairawa
impatient
- will rest with friends nevertheless
friendly
- likes company
childish
- fools around
upright
- doesn't lie, but can remain silent
helpful
hyperactive
fickle
open
sharp
forgetful
falcon
freedom
Morcona
loyal
- never leaves friends
mistrustful
- assumes that all deer leave her
proud
- won't show fear
polite
- doesn't want to hurt anybody
guarded
taciturn
devoted
fastidious
sensible
unforgiving
crow
honor



















LIKES
rain
birch forest
running
frogs
crows
polite fawns
silly deer
dancing
button mashing
DISLIKES
the mud near the pond
the Old Oak
feeling penned
deer who don't say goodbye
impolite deer
aggressive deer
deer who ignore strangers
being ignored
being bored















RELATIONSHIPS

Friends
  • Honigmund Habasi
    - sister, crazy and never tired

  • Nayu
    - adopted son, crazy and calm

  • flyleaf
    - playful, kind friend, teacher of buttonmashing

  • Fangorn
    - one of her oldest friends, funny and creative

  • Nixelen
    - friendly and humorous, likes him/her very much

  • Violet/Rosie
    - lovable, very fond of

  • Rumen
    - great friend, likes resting and playing with him

  • Nerri
    - enjoys her friendly and humorous company

  • Butterbrot
    - judges lovable and sleepy

  • Kian
    - cheerful, likes running with him
Acquaitances

  • Titilayo - absolutely fond of this crazy mini

  • Sira - feels pleasant in her presence

  • Kodiana - it's always fun with her

  • Curiosity - curious; met this funny mini several times now

  • Big Bunny - everyone loves it!

  • Ozzie - curious of Fangorn's brother

  • Iglecia - hasn't seen her for long

  • Unik - spent a day running in circles

  • Tasaka - buttonmashing dancer

  • Honeyfur - bows to

  • Luna - missing?

  • Fae - fawnhood memories

  • R'Dikjayhl - jumped through the forest

  • Africa - friendly

  • Awentia - friendly

  • Illrose - nice company

  • Hocus-Pocus - met as fawn

  • Revenant - unsure, but liked dancing

























BEHAVIOR

NOW
offline

Current Set:
  • secretary bird pelt, venetian antlers, magpie mask
ALWAYS


mooing used to
  • wake deer
  • create a sense of togetherness (=howling of wolves)
  • communicate with far-off deer
rearing
  • never aggressive
  • signals delight, impatience, activity
paw
  • impatience
nod
  • friendly request / invitation
lie
  • probably mentally absent
  • moo to wake her up
saying goodbye
  • bows
  • is sad
  • shakes head
goes crazy if it rains: runs around and is in a very cheerful mood






PICTURES

Federweber by:

DEERTH
Amazegenalo
Nayu
KonohaHiiragi
Butterbrot
Redkora


Thank you very much!
Federweber in her drax form
(not really related to the character,
but you can see there that she has grey eyes! x-) )


Federweber development sketches (deviantArt)









DEERTH's picture

Mods for Oblivion? Don't know

Mods for Oblivion? Don't know what this stuff might be, I'm still inexperienced for a lot of TES things, only the games I can play. xD
Explanation please? :3

And yes, nasty Uriel with huge boredom! Acquiantances.
*agreeing on all*

However, I do wished to play TES I, but how's that possible when you don't have a DOS-box?
I'm aiming for TES II: Daggerfall instead. The graphics are not cool, but I'm aiming for the storyline.

Also, another little chat topic adding: I'm getting a graphics tablet soon and then beware: I'm going to draw Federweber... I've also sketched her down on paper sometimes. Just for fun. <)

(Aaand also, I'm interrupting by the Assasin's Creed thingie: It's an addicting game for many people, but it doesn't interest me much. Shocked )

Edit: TEH NEW PAGE IS MIIIIINE!
Call me Deery. Smiling
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Kamino's picture

I figure something out but I

I figure something out but I have to wait till I'm at home (oh my god, this bio looks so strange with this resolution O-x )... Yes... I've got a plan now... B-) Thank you, but my siggy Feder will be replaced ;-D
And yes it's mine! Laughing out loud Ich hab jetzt einen echten Bu! Damit muss ich doch angeben.

OHHH MY GOD you poor! Not able to play it because of a bug? How terrible! D-x
But at least you saw the beginning which I love. And yes, that deer! x-D
YAY for so many Skyrim players - and hopefully the'll release a useful patch soon...

I definitly have to visit the forest more oftnen, but that's not easy with Skyrim and Assassins Creed and Informatikklausur... x-)
byButterbrot
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Gah, I just saw your reply!

Gah, I just saw your reply! I'm glad to know you're doing fine, I miss ya. Hope we will see each other in forest soon. <3

Siggy by Butterbrot <3
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Yay~ video game talk! I'm

Yay~ video game talk! I'm thinking about getting Skyrim as well. Though I have to say that I didn't play the other TES-games. Is it necessary to play them to understand the newest title? ._,
Aaand I already finished AS Revelations. Damn. Another year of waiting. >_<

Kamino's picture

Oh sorry! I missed your post,

Oh sorry! I missed your post, Deerth D-x
I didn’t want to confuse you, it’s just such a great thing about the TES games I think! They are made for mods or plugins, so that everyone (I tried it myself, but I’m too lazy x-D) can create content (via the TES construction set mainly).

You can download the stuff made by others (and some of them are incredibly competent). The biggest site for Oblivion and Morrowind is [url=]Tes Nexus[/url], you can find everything there '8-O But you have to have an account there...

Examples for mods I know are various houses, a rideable dragon, being a werewolf and – which is very importand to me x-D – digitigrade feet for Argonians. Of course there are risks like everywhere on the internet, but – except for sometimes difficult installing – I didn’t have bad experiences. It’s much fun and can make the old game interesting again Laughing out loud

Ok, I hope that was a passable explanation x-)
Oh, and I think mods work only for PC.......

Oh my god! TES I and II are surely interesting, but I, who never finished Morrowind, can’t imagine such efforts! Good luck though : -D

Yay! Graphics tablet! I’m looking forward to extend Feder’s fanart section. She feels flattered that you draw her x-)
It will be interesting how you’ll get along with it. I see that it can be difficult, and I also haven’t rudimentarily explored the world of digital painting (but I can’t draw with pencils any more Shocked )

(x-D Well, not everyone has to like AC, but I myself loved the first part. I found it so... innovative. I didn’t play many games of witch I liked the story.)

Nayu:
I’m working on it! Feder’s going to be more often in the forest <3

Ama:
Video games! : -D Very nice topic. It’s kinda funny that everyone here seems to be interested in games x-)

I know you’re an AC fan x-D Please no spoilers x-) I like that modern architecture animus stuff in Desmond’s parts, but now that Ezio is 60 I think even more that he is an perverted a***** since he still has to have a baby. I hope this will NOT be resolved in Revelations, I do not want to know it x-6
Oh, and I hated the role of Maria who was once a knight Frown

And for Skyrim: Well no, I wouldn’t say it’s necessary, it takes place 200 years after Oblivion : -D
Even the leveling system is very different (and so less complicated than Morrowind’s).
If you want a game which occupies you longer than AC I’d definitly recommend it. Though... the graphics are worse : -D

Oh my god, monster post! Shocked
byButterbrot
Butterbrot's picture

@Kami~ yach its really

@Kami~ yach its really annoying -.- i figured, the only possibility is to download and start an existing saving point.
the thing is that i cant choose the char myself cause its saved right after the time you can choose your looks, species and stuff ;;
____
and for the echten Bu ~ pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff !D ~ <3

DEERTH's picture

It's okay. I have a PC,

It's okay. Smiling
I have a PC, yaay! And I sure have to try out these mods for making my game experience as interesting as it was before! I played Oblivion only when I missed it or when I was bored. xD

And a RIDEABLE DRAGON.... I think I'm going to install it soon enough when there's one for Obliviom. xD
Thanks for explaining the mods and plugins for me! Smiling
I'll probably visit the site soon. 8D

Also, there are some cool additions to TES I, TES II, and TES III.
There are some additional games, not only the Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim. There are the expansions available. And I think TES II has a free download somewhere...
Did you know that Oblivion has that expansion, too? It's graphics are better, but I don't know what's the name or gameplay. It's the previous game before Skyrim.

And there's much drawing for Federweber coming up! I can't... Get... Rid of it! I love digital painting! 8D But you're a master painter (for me) in digital art world, so, you can probably explain how to make art transparent and how to work on layers? Please? You don't have to answer, I'm maybe asking too much. x)
Also, I'm drawing because I'm so inactive. I feel guilty Violet's storyline doesn't advance. ;_;
And guilty I feel I owe something to my friends... I haven't been in-game for long and I know people are missing me...

(My friends love AC. One of my friend strives for completing the game. xD And no, yours not a monster post. Mine is. *faints* )
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Kamino's picture

Bu: Hm, at least that is

Bu:
Hm, at least that is possible. I don’t know if these work in Skyrim, but in Oblivion there existed cheats to change race, birthsign and so on...
I‘m so lucky I didn’t have any serious bugs up to now :-/
I just admire people with an unique style 8-0


Deerth:
Oh my god, I’m so stupid! I wanted to look for the site and now my pretty BBCode is visible there x-D
Ok, I found it: http://www.tesnexus.com/. It may be quite overwhelming at first... There’s a german site I like, maybe there’s something in estonian too?

Well, I got the expansions of Morrowind, but I never played them (it was already too old... :-/ ) and Shivering Isles, the expansion of Oblivion is recommendable! Sheogorath is much fun x-)

I’m waiting for Skyrim mods now – I wanna be a dragon :-B Like Odahving said: I’m so jealous that they can fly D-x

*cough* master painter *cough* I am scared ’:-0
I paint digitally for only one year I think, but of course I could try to explain some bases, although I think showing is much easier than telling. And a problem is that we probably use different programs (I use PS elements, ArtRage and used to use Gimp).
Don’t worry, transparency and layers should be easy and are very similar in most programs – I think. I’ll try to help the best I can. Which program do you use?

Oh my god! Feder – she’s in your brain! Help! Shocked
I feel guilty too, my activity is much too irregular: I can just concentrate on one thing: TEF or TES or AC or drawing or writing or working. It’s difficult D-x
byButterbrot
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you are one sweet person, to

you are one sweet person, to say so ~<3

DEERTH's picture

Oh, I already found the site,

Oh, I already found the site, but thanks anyway. x)
And you're not stupid! Remember that! x)

And I use like... A five thousand programs at once. xD
I use Gimp, Artweaver, ArtRage 2, fdasdfsf Sai, SumoPaint and asfafa more five hundred. Dx
But I think I'm getting some more programs as well, because my tablet had them via download. I'm still figuring out how to download them excactly...

I use Artweaver the most, by the way, but I think transparency and layers are pretty much the same, so you could explain it on ArtRage or something...

federinmahbrain
And yes, the concentration on hundred things to remember and the activity... What a pity. I actually hate those things. x(
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Kamino's picture

Bu: :’-) It’s kinda funny

Bu:
:’-) It’s kinda funny because in real life I can’t imagine anyone calling me sweet x-)
<3


Deerth:
Yes, I got some programs with my tablet too, and I didn’t like that I had to download them D-:
x-) It’s good to try many programs. I myself haven’t found a program I like yet...

Maybe ArtRage isn’t a bad idea, it’s quite simple, but there also some important feature missing.
But what do you want to know about layers and transparency? Have you already used layers? Do you know what their use is? I admit I’ve no idea where to start. x-)
byButterbrot
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BUT YOU ARE!!!!, SO > !D

BUT YOU ARE!Exclaim!!!, SO > !D

DEERTH's picture

My tablet only wanted Bamboo

My tablet only wanted Bamboo Dock to be necessary. I'm still figuring out how did they mean that I can get ArtRage (full version), Corel Painter Essentials and Adobe Photoshop via download. xD

I haven't used layers because I don't know how they work and how to work on them. x|
I have no idea what their use and benefit either, fsad I'm so stupid.

You may start off what layers benefit and what their idea is for the art. xD
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wocio's picture

Hey It was nice to see Feder

Hey Sticking out tongue It was nice to see Feder again! It's been a while o.o
Sadly I have to leave now... hopefully we'll meet again soon c:
*nuzzle nuzzle nuzzle*
Flyleaf's picture

It was so crazy today

It was so crazy today .....thank you !!

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Sorry - late reply.

Sorry - late reply. X)
Regarding AC: Hey, don't call Ezio a pervert. xD He has to be about 54 years old at the end of Revelations so it's not that bad. Oh and I wouldn't spoil it for you. The games story and mysteries are what I find so appealing of the AC-series.
Skyrim: I think I'll get it for christmas. X)

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Bu: x-D I see!

Bu:
x-D I see!
Cool





Deerth:
As far as I remember you have to log into the wacom site and then there’s a section anywhere where you can download the programs and the most important thing is to write the registration codes down... but I’m sure you’ll figure it out Sticking out tongue

It’s funny, I just wrote a text about layers on Ama’s scribble blog (I feel guilty for spamming) x-)
Well, the most important use is that you can paint on a layer and it won’t influence the rest of your painting. Layers are like sheets of glass: You paint on it, but you can also remove it or change the glass sheet under it without influencing all the other parts of the painting!

That’s incredibly useful. You surely know the problem of painting a background with traditional media:
  • You have to paint around the foreground, especially with watercolors that’s quite difficult. If you want to change a figure you don’t have to paint with the background color on it, you just erase it or add color as you wish.
  • You don’t have the risk of destroying parts of your picture by changing its environment.
  • Outlines are a great example! You can draw on the top layer, and then you can paint under it. You won’t lose your outlines, but in the end you turn the sketch layer invisible! I often use several outline layers, first for rough doodles, then (one or several) for more detailed lines. After that I remove the old sketches.
That’s the basic stuff I think. I’m sure there is more, but I don’t remember it now : -D

I’d propose that you try it now! You’ll see, it’s quite simple. You’ve probably already noticed the layer area in ArtRage, it’s on the right. I think on the small arrow button there should be an option to create a new layer. After that you can paint on it, just like you paint usually. You could try to paint a background on the first, paper layer, and a sketch on another transparent layer, and then paint the foreground on a layer between these two.
By the way, you can change the order of layers by simply drag and drop them in the layer area wherever you want.

Hehe, I guess that was much and strange, and maybe I left out some explanations, but if you work with it I’m sure it will quickly be clear to you (and I can answer specific questions better) Smiling

Next stuff would be: Opacity, locking layers, transforming layers and layer modi.
By the way, all my programs are german, so I hope I won’t confuse you with wrong translations : -D






Wocio:
8-D Sticking out tongue x-)
Yes, I was happy to meet Fangorn too! We really meet much to rarely (but I’m anyway to rarely in the forest).
And yes, it was a pity that you left so soon :’-(
See you... soon! D->

Fly:
Gosh, thank you for the screenies! It was a great day, I met many known and unknown people! Hehe, and Feder got her antlers, but then I lost them : -D
Yes, it was a little bit crazy x-)
The sceenies are so cute – all those crazy minis Laughing out loud
It was great to meet you and Rumen again : -)

Ama:
I’m not sure if you noticed, but I can’t stand Ezio x-D And 54 is far too old for me, I wouln’t like to have a father who’s probably dead when I’m not 20 8-. x-D
And I thougt he would become more sympathisch when he’s older, but that was obviously an error : -D
I hope I’ll soon have the time to continue the game 8-/ You’re right of coure, it’s one of the few games with an interesting (and confusing x-D ) story.
Yay, Skyrim! : -D
byButterbrot
DEERTH's picture

Log into the Wacom site? Ohh

Log into the Wacom site? Ohh man, that means I have to find out my postal code. *dies... again* I'll maybe do it some other time. xD
And no need to feel guilty about layer instruction, both Ama and me needed it, as I can say. xD

*reads all the layer instructions*
WOW! They are so useful! From now on, I'll try to work on them, yay! x)
And yes, so far, this guide didn't confuse me! Thank you for this one, I have a clearer vision of layers now, haha!

Now you can explain Opacity... (now what would that be!?)

By the way, I have looked in to TES Nexus! I figured out mods, and as you said, it is difficult to install some, but soon enough, I'll have some mods! I'll probably remove them after they bore me out. xD

Edit: Thought you'd be interested: My first digital art! xD Here.
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Kamino's picture

Hm, opacity seems a bit

Hm, opacity seems a bit difficult without layer modi and so on. Opacity is just the transparancy (there are too many english words vor this x-D ) of the layer. It’s 100% by default. So for example if you painted shading on a layer and it seems to dark, you can set the layer‘s opacity down. I think this is most important vor atmosphere colors and so on, and especially for layers with special modi.

The layer modus is a bit more difficult to explain, but in my opinion it’s incredibly helpful. You won’t need them for „usual painting“, only if you use special techniques. This means: if you use layers for textures, lighting, color, etc. in your painting. I’m not sure if this is important for you now, but I always thought playing around with layer modi was fun, so maybe you can just try it and see if you can use it in any way.

Ok. In ArtRage you see that eye next to each layer. By clicking on it the layer turns invisible (this is useful for hiding outlines and so on). Below is an arrow. If you click on that, all layer options appear.

First there’s the name field (not sure if I can say ‚field‘ in english x-D). It’s important to name your layers if you use many.
Then there’s opacity. Well, nothing more to say, it’s from 100% to 0% – invisible.
And now there’s that thing which is called in my german version mixture. There you can see various modi – explaining all of them would be too much, I always try which modus fits. Most important for me are soft light and overlay.
With these modi you can not only add atmosphere light, but for example change the color of a small part of your painting by simply painting on a new layer with the new color over it and then change the modus to color.
There are so many uses – but I can’t remember any more now : -D

Deinstalling mods is a good idea, Oblivion started to be really slow on our system because it had to load so many mods x-S

Yay! I’ll look at it immediately! : -D
byButterbrot
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Not sure if I excactly

Not sure if I excactly understood it all... But thank you! It seems much clearer now! Smiling

Although you could explain how to make the picture transparent, I mean just like your siggy's images. Laughing out loud

Oh I see that mod thing about Oblivion. They say Oblivion can load 50-200 mods at once, depending on the computer.
And I lately installed my first mod! It included a flying pegasus! The wings are a bit failed and they don't flap and move at all, also the horse can't move on ground, it's cool to glide across Cyrodiil! 8D
My first ideas were mount mods. I just love animals sfsdfs. But the Pegasus guardians were minotaurs, and they were so... Huge! xD

...And I already saw your reply on my picture's comments. Thanks again! x) I'll be on DeviantArt too, but I won't go there until I don't get good enough on art. I'll start out by posting pictures here on TEF Community.
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Redkora's picture

Here you go! Sorry for the

Here you go! Sorry for the long wait: http://endlessforest.org/community/federweber
[pixel deer by Aldebaran]
Kamino's picture

Deerth: Well, I suspected

Deerth:
Well, I suspected that it was a bit fast written down x-) I hope it will be somehow helpful, but it’s stuff for experimenting anyway.

So just that little note – transparent backgrounds are quite easy, even more with layers!
You don’t have to paint a background, but the grey „transparent” background (I hope you now what I’m talking about, it appears in photoshop or gimp) isn’t good for painting.
So if you’ve finished your painting you can just turn the (white or black – you should change the color to see how it looks on different background colors and if there are any problems) bachground layer invisible.
Now this is the most important step: the file format .jpg can’t save transparancy! So you just have to save the image as .png or .gif, and... that’s it. Nothing difficult.

Hehe, I know that most mods aren’t perfect, but yes, it’s fun! : -D That Pegasus sounds funny and well, I think Oblivion minotaurs have quite cute faces, even if they’re hudge x-)
Yes, animals! We too were mainly interested in animals. We downloaded several pet and mount mods... yes, this nostalgia x-)

That’s funny, I just wanted to ask if you’re on deviantArt now. I’ve uploaded your Azura and Eoron, I hope you’re ok with this : -) I myself use deviantArt mostly as „list“ for my stuff, because it’s scattered over my hard disk *cough*. And I like looking at other peoples work and tutorials : -D




Redkora:
Thank you very much Smiling
byButterbrot
DEERTH's picture

Apparently, I learned to make

Apparently, I learned to make a transparent background myself. But I gained another few tips from your writing, too!

And yes, the minotaurs! They have cute (and dumb) faces, indeed! xD
The only scary thing about these giant minotaurs are that they come in four different colours, there are four of them and they're very powerful.
And of course, animal freaks love animals and mods like that! 8D

I'm not on DeviantArt now, but I'll try to be soon. I think I'm getting the hang of digital art. '<-D
And of course, I won't mind Azura and Eoron for other people for looking there. They're just so awesome! 8D
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Flyleaf's picture

Great time with you again

Great time with you again ....sadly not often enough Eye
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Hehe ...looky here ... For

Hehe ...looky here ...


For your Memories ... Smiling
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Kamino's picture

Thank you Fly! These are so

Shocked
Thank you Fly! These are so cute 8-D (your resolution kills me – the texture of the pelts and masks is so visible...!) Rumen’s such a cutie although I casted that boring brown pelt on him x-) (But Feder’s Halsspeck is looking fluffy with the magpie pelt : -D )

But it’s scary that there are paparazzi out in the forest D-8 I think I saw a fawn lurking about...

Thanks again Smiling
(I am honestly in need of memories since I deleted all my screenshots when I reinstalled TEF x-S)
byButterbrot
Flyleaf's picture

Glad you like them ....leider

Glad you like them ....leider konnte ich nicht mit euch spielen ...Habe Rückenschmerzen ...hab nur diese fotos geschossen und wieder weg .
See you Eye
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Amazegenalo's picture

I haven't seen Feder with her

I haven't seen Feder with her "old" set for a long time. This reminds me of the beginning when Rumen was still new to the forest.
It's nice to see you again in the forest. <3

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Yeaaaaaa ...HELLO ........so

Yeaaaaaa ...HELLO ........so Happy Smiling Smiling How are you ? And your sister ?
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Ohhhh Ama I’m so sorry that I

Ohhhh Ama I’m so sorry that I failed to see this! Well, after the exam stress there’s the Hausarbeit-Stress (I’m somehow quite stressanfällig |-( ) and I doubt that I will be in the forest that often any more. There’s so much other things to do...

Yes, I thougt she needed her old set again. But I guess it will keep changing x-) Again I can’t decide. The default antlers are just the best antlers, but there are only flowers and candles for them. And all those pelts! Nightfall, orca, peacock! The dark peacock face is great.

Well, I’m babbling. I hope to meet Rumen again (or your other characters, but I’ve no idea how Feder will react to them).

HELLO FLYLEAF! 8-D
Yes, I’m also happy. We’re fine, especially my sister. Maybe she has got too much friends now to visit the forest anymore x-)
I hope you’re fine too?
byButterbrot
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I am fine ! Sag ihr "Hallo"

I am fine ! Sag ihr "Hallo" von mir Eye
I hope to meet FederWeber more often Eye
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